choke_me_hard (choke_me_hard) wrote in virginitywhores,

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Pushing Religion and Belittling a Persons Rights and Choices

My fiance brought to my attention the arguements between he and a certain someon on the topic of what is acceptable and what is not acceptable in the bible concerning virginity, sex, and the such...I myself am Wiccan...I do not push my beliefs on others and I do not bring up the subject when I feel strongly about a topic...I don't claim to be a perfect person...I lost my virginity when I was only 13 do to some pressure from my boyfriend at the time...I have made mistakes in my life that I regret but I would not be the person I am now if it wasn't for them.

I feel that the ppl who chose to stay pure till they are married are very wise and mature for their age...They are making a conscious decision to stay true to their beliefs and morals and it is totally their choice to do so...So I applaud all of you who are staying true and pure...You have my respect.

I do not, however, care to hear the ravings of a bible thumper pushing their religion on a subject that is souly an individuals choice...I respect everyones beliefs and I ask that they respect mine...Wicca is a religion based on nature and self love.

I do know a little bit about Christianity as well...I use to attend a Missionary Baptist Church in TN...I've also attended a United Methodist Church and as off the wall as it may sound a Mormon Church...These were all when I was trying to find my faith and I was looking to all religions to see where I felt most accepted...It's my understanding that the Christian belief is to love and understand ppl and help to better them thru Christ...If someone chooses to have premarital relations then regrets and asks God for forgiveness then are they not too accepted into the Kingdom of Heaven? Jesus taught understanding and forgiveness...Where did he teach that you should degrade and belittle ppl for their beliefs? Where did he say you should force your beliefs on others? Christianity is accepting Christ as the Lord and Savior of man it's not about forcing others to join some bible thumping cult that follows the bible to the exact word...God made us in his image but he did not make us to where we have the ability not to make mistakes...That is why Jesus was sent to Earth in the first place to save us and die for our sins so that one day we may join God in Heaven.

I don't understand how exploring your own body is a sin either...Shouldn't you know yourself as much as possible? Every person has some sort of sexual desire whether they give into it or not...I find that a lot of ppl I've talked to masturbate to keep their desires from overwhelming them into doing something they are not ready to do. I just don't understand the way ppl push religion on others...I don't want to hear about other ppls religions and how I'm going to die and go to Hell for not believing what they believe...If I want to masturbate or if I want to have premarital sex it's my choice not someone elses...Sorry I just had to put my 2 cents in
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Ok I did not read any of that and don't plan on doing so...I am not Christian...It's one thing to tell ppl about God's word and another to try and FORCE ppl to believe what you do...I will not bow to your ways...I've walked down that path before and it is not for me so please don't talk to me anymore.
I've never forced anyone to follow anything.

You either follow him or you follow satan.

Why post and run off at the mouth (keyboard) if you're not going to reply to the comments you receive? :/

Seems you have turned to fables.(wiccan)

2 Timothy 4: 4

4: And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Wicca is one of the oldest religions there is and if you had any intelligence then you would know there is no satan and there is no devil or whatever name you want give it in the Craft. And to me and many others I've spoken w/you ARE trying to force your beliefs on others. I don't mind replying to comments that are worth my time but youare not worth my time and any further attempt from you to comment will be ignored...I do not follow satan I worship nature and Earth. So have a good life and congrats on your devotion but please stay out of my beliefs.
God commanded Christians to preach his word to others and make them into "Fishers of men," ie.Christians.

2 Timothy 4: 1-5

1: I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2: Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long-suffering and doctrine.
3: For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4: And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
5: But watch Thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

God also said to abstain from fornication, to stay pure.

1 Thessalonians 4:1-5

1: Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more.
2: For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.
3: For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:
4: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;
5: Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:

Why do you call God your Lord and not do his will?

Luke 6: 46-49

46: And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
47: Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
48: He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
49: But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

Not everyone who calls themselves Christians are going to heaven.

Matthew 7:21

21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

God is not mocked.

Galations 6:7-8

7: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8: For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

We that are true Christians will confront others of their sins, and try to convert them to Christianity, for this is the will of God.

Since I can't post in pacdude's journal. I'll comment here. :P

From choke me hard:
"I was reading your conversation w/the bible thumping psychopath because my fiance was the one to start the arguements w/ may be younger but you are far more mature and wise then that jerk will ever be...I applaud you for your knowledge :-)"

Yes, I'm a Bible-thumper. What a compliment.

Pacdude is more intelligent than I am? HAHAHAHAHA XD

1 Corinthians, chapter 3:18-20
18: Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
19: For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
20: And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Here's a little thumping for you.

Exodus, chapter 22
18: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live

Wicca is a great religion to live by.
Not that I'm putting any other religion down but anyone who cant relize that every religion is pretty much the same.
Every one has there god(s), and there devil(s)
Everything in between are just rules or stories that have been made up over the years.
I'm not saying all of them are made up, there might be some truth in them but not all of it is the truth.
Like Adam and Eve.
Maybe you dont agree with me but thats okay, all I ask is that you think about it.
Ok I don't even remember when I posted that. I know I did, I remember it but why are you commenting on it now?
OH, I replyed to it because I just saw it.
I just checked it's over a yr old
And I just joined this today.
Sorry for replying